Yup, another woven runner question.

Discussion in 'Carpet Q&A' started by Lo Down, Feb 7, 2009.

  1. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I hear ya cp, but I bet he feels like it after threads like this one.
    Now If I can find one for a Harry Myers then I won't be playing any favoritism. I think I found one once but can't remeber where it was. Must have been a carpet tool though.


    Daris
     
  2. cproader

    cproader All over T's last nerve Senior Member

    aint no favoritisms goin on here...we know what kindda talent Harry is, so don't worry yerself about it...:coffee:
     
  3. Barry Carlton

    Barry Carlton Senior Member Published

    There have been several references to this booklet on various threads. How does one go about obtaining one?

    b
     
  4. Floorguy

    Floorguy The Living Dead Charter Member Senior Member





    It all makes sense now.... David is immortal. That wife of his, must be the fountain of youth.
     
  5. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Oh my dear.......... I got some reading to catch up on. :eek:
    Thank you. I know I'm still gonna have another question. :D
     
  6. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I along with Barry would like to know where to find these publications to have for ourselves. Maybe the floorpro could get into selling them for us to buy, just a thought.
     
  7. Harry Myers

    Harry Myers Charter Member

    David I understand where you come from. Documentation? Well Anywho. When anyone shows me stitches that are wrong they are wrong. I wont say there right why? Well there not. Meanwhile practice was considered but this does not mean it was done correctly.. I like you to David but I do not like to feel Scrutinized . Hey if we can get on the same page that is great.
     
  8. Harry Myers

    Harry Myers Charter Member

    Also Daris it is Documented Stuff which means it is proven. More important anything can be documented. New Documentation exist . Just because we have not heard of it does not mean it does not exist.
     
  9. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Rather than proven or documented, my original question on this topic was what kind of stitch or stiches would be appropriate for the particular carpet runner I initially asked about.
    Harry, you told me the stitch that I showed was the wrong one and I appreciate that...... but I need the other half of the question answered. Can you show me what is the best stitch or best kinds of stitches for this particular runner? It will be a 45 degree miter.
    ....... I'd also like to know that would be best kind for a weft and warp seam also, if they are different. Thanks.
     
  10. David Hunt

    David Hunt Charter Member Senior Member Published

    The answer to your question is the over-hand-double-back-whip-lock-cross-ax-ball-bear stitch and don't anyone say this is wrong, because you can't prove me wrong because only we know what the 'over-hand-double-back-whip-lock-cross-ax-ball-bear stitch' is, because we just invented it and it's the right one. :yesss::yesss::yesss::yesss:

    There Lo, don't you feel better now knowing. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

    Dobby

    PS: This is sarcasm being used to make a point. Does it really matter what we call a stitch as long as it's the correct one? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
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  11. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    The pictures of the some of the stitches that Roland posted are very possibly named wrong. I don't agree with them all myself. They were set up by Al Brown[deceased] and Stan Cunningham. Now I don't know if the names were switched in the transposing or if they were wrong to begin with. But I will work to see that the right names get put with the right picture if possible. Best I can do. Any help would be appreciated.

    Daris
     
  12. Roland Thompson

    Roland Thompson Charter Member Senior Member

    Lo to answer the 2nd part of your question,when I do a 45 seam I have used both the cross stitch starting with a lock stitch, do a lock stitch in the center and then one or two more lock stitches at the end. Then I have just went and di a Traveling Lock all the way across, both ways have worked very good for me. Make sure you seal the carpet well.

    Roland :coffee::coffee::coffee:

    PS Daris I am along with you, we can see if we can make sure CFI is showing the proper stitches.
     
  13. Barry Carlton

    Barry Carlton Senior Member Published

    Yeah, Both of these guys are pretty smart, ;) I'm with them, how can we get one?

    b
     
  14. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain Owner/Founder Administrator

    There has been some communication going on behind the scenes. Please be patient. :)

    Jim
     
  15. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    As CP would say, :yell::brick::brick::brick::poke::D:D:D
     
  16. Harry Myers

    Harry Myers Charter Member

    I would do a cross stitch on that mitre Lo. I would also pull it tight enough to get a valley. This will help it fraying . You do not want to sew it lose . Just keep the tension on the thread consistant.
     
  17. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Much appreciated Harry. Just one question on the stitches, about the spacing. How far apart and how far in should they go? Using a polyester thread................ Is single or doubleing the thread up recomended?
     
  18. Barry Carlton

    Barry Carlton Senior Member Published

    I know nothing, and I surely do not want to stir anything up.
    Every book I have on sewing recommends double thread.
    Harry seems to not agree with this, and I respect that, as he has so much practical experience, and is so well respected and looked up to. (I would love to donate some of my time to 'help' him......to teach me)

    b
     
  19. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain Owner/Founder Administrator

    I can't be sure, but I think what Harry was referring to was doubling of the thread - in other words, thread the needle in standard fashion, which is 2 threads used in stitching. But don't double it to 4 threads.

    Is my supposition correct, Harry?

    Jim
     
  20. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    That was my guess. This is a fairly heavy carpet, not like a thin looped pile where double threading was going to cause issues because of it's added bulk.
    Previously, I had always used waxed linen thread, and I was given a roll of waxed polyester thread by a customer that worked for the phone company.
    ................. Linen thread was something that would occasionally break. When I tried pulling the waxed polyester thread to it's breaking point and I about cut off my fingers. :eek: Wow is it strong.
     
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