Workshop 2009 Committee Thread

Discussion in 'Industry News, Training & Organizations' started by Elmer Fudd, Jun 18, 2008.

  1. Peter Kodner

    Peter Kodner Inspector Floors Charter Member Senior Member

    Put it this way Mark, you will be able to sleep at home every night lmao

    Some great comments and ideas so far, but only the beginning.

    I'm still cogitating but will be chiming in soon.
  2. cproader

    cproader All over T's last nerve Senior Member

  3. Mark in Tulsa

    Mark in Tulsa Pro Member

    Where in Tulsa was this held at last year?
    How large of a turnout was there?
    Anyone local show up that isn't from here?
    Any sponsors last year and who?
    Is there need for sponsors?
    Is this a multiple day event?
    Why are cheese cakes so awesome?
    Is there a fee?
    Any hands on materials?
    Could I be any more annoying with questions?

    Sorry new here. Just trying to learn what this bad boy is all about.
  4. Bill Watson

    Bill Watson O2bkytn

    EEEWWW Did ya get any on ya? :D:D
  5. Bill Watson

    Bill Watson O2bkytn

    Seriously, we would love to have you become a member of the team!
  6. Danny Ferguson

    Danny Ferguson Abbey Carpet & Floor Charter Member

    Hey Daris, since Tandy and I are in charge of logistics and the million little things needed to run the program, I'm thinking we are going to need some of those handy dandy carpet backing chains sets your so good at making. Are you up for that?
  7. Roland Thompson

    Roland Thompson Charter Member Senior Member

    They all where sold at the convention so he might have to have people help him get more backings. PS. we found out it was his wife and grandchildren that did most of the work.

  8. Tandy Reeves

    Tandy Reeves Resting In Peace Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    We have a great guy in Dalton (Randall Green) that could possibly help get some samples. Great idea Danny.
  9. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Roland is wrong. I still have 75 sets. The price for them is $50 plus $7 for shipping.

  10. Chris Mha

    Chris Mha Charter Member Senior Member

    Save acouple for me Daris. I want to get some of these things for the carpet workshops. I'll come up soon and we'll have coffee.
  11. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Administwative Asst. Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    OK Peter, time is up, no more chewing the cud, let us know what's on your mind!!:D

    Others are welcome to chime in too.;)

    Don't make me beg!! It won't be pretty.:help::bump:
  12. Peter Kodner

    Peter Kodner Inspector Floors Charter Member Senior Member

    Sorry, have qute a few to write up, three to look at tomorrow (with too many miles between them!) and write 'em up ASAP. Wed off to Chitown to spend my bday with my mother and daughter, then fly to Memphis on Friday. NOFMA until Wed. PM. Overnight in Chicago Wed. and drive back here on the 21st.

    Won't happen before then unless I have terrible insomnia in Memphis...

    Let's have some of these other fine chaps pick up some slack!
  13. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Administwative Asst. Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    :help: Well, Peter you see no one else picked up the slack.:D

    So let's try now.;)

    Come one come all, join in! :help::help:
  14. Tandy Reeves

    Tandy Reeves Resting In Peace Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Are we going to allow manufacturers, and suppleirs to participate in the workshop?

    Are we going to allow them to set up booths (for free or a fee)?

    Are we going to have hands on demos?

    What subjects are we going to cover?

    What is the workshop fee?

    Who is invited?
  15. rusty baker

    rusty baker Well-Known Member

    Is Hooters going to cater?
  16. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain TFP Owner/Founder Administrator

    I vote a big YES on this. It may be an Installer-Inspector Workshop, but there should be no reason a flooring professional from any segment of the industry couldn't register and participate.

    Another YES vote for this. If we ever want to be a recognized entity and want our leaders and support organizations (like FITS) to be recognized training and certifying organizations, we must get the support of manufacturers and distributors. When they are given the opportunity to bring information about their companies and display, even offer, their products, this kind of cooperation can benefit everyone involved. And of course, they should pay the same fees as everyone else, or set up an exhibitor fee based on the amount of space they require.

    I also feel special contributions to the support of the organization should warrant special recognition as sponsors - a small logo will appear on the certificates and they can provide logoed merchandise to go in swag bags for the participants. They will also get small ads on the soon-to-be website (if we can ever gather enough support for that). In other words, we should follow the examples of industry workshops, seminars and conventions that have come long before us.

    We should use the experience of the last Installer-Inspector Workshop to determine these answers. You all saw what worked, are aware of what the attendees liked and would like to see in the next one. If demos and additional subjects maintain the focus of the goals of an Installer-Inspector Workshop, then try to include them. I would not think a demo of how a specific product or tool could contribute to the mission. But demos on report writing, based on a hypothetical situation, could be valuable. Demonstrating the proper use of a camera to record project progress and evidence collection would be good (how to use a tripod, focus properly, holding the camera steady, lighting uses, etc.). How about a short role-reversal exercise, or even a class on telephone or email communications?

    More than last time, I hope. It should be non-profit, but there is overhead involved that was not figured last time. This brings to mind another class topic that would be helpful for the installer or inspector: business and overhead calculations for the successful organization. I think the fees should cover a banquet and awards presentation (like a graduation to hand out the certificates).

    I hope anyone. Indicate in the registration who is the inspector and who is the installer (or both) so that certificates can be ready AT the event. Everyone else will just get a bag of swag without a certificate.

    These are just my opinions and carry no more or less weight than anyone else's. :)

  17. Elmer Fudd

    Elmer Fudd Administwative Asst. Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Excellent ideas, both Tandy and T. :):)

    Who's next, step right up!!:p:p

    PS. NO Hooters, no one would get anything accomplished!!:eek:
  18. Danny Ferguson

    Danny Ferguson Abbey Carpet & Floor Charter Member

    I'm pretty tight with a distributor called Lock Wood Flooring, they sell wood products from Summer Set and Mirage, and are very involved in wood flooring organizations and education. I'm sure they would be interested in participating in the workshop. All I would need, is some ideas on how you would like someone like this to participate in the workshop, and I would be glad to give them a call.
  19. Peter Kodner

    Peter Kodner Inspector Floors Charter Member Senior Member

    I disagree. Allowing booths takes us way off the intent: Creating environments where installer and inspectors can find common ground. I am for making attempts to engage the other parts of the industry, but we are not trying to be Surfaces.

    I look at some of the national organizations that have become way to beholding to manufacturers with big pockets and have lost their credibility with the people that were created to advocate for.

    I suggest we keep it as simple as possible and stay true to the reasons we held the first one.

    If we build it, they will come.
  20. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain TFP Owner/Founder Administrator

    But you didn't come, Peter, and neither did a lot of people that could benefit from this kind of event. This is different than any other kind of workshop out there. It needs the support of the industry if it has any hope of success. We can't and shouldn't think we are above the accepted practices of staging events for industry professionals. We don't want to be seen as elitists.

    Nothing says we have to do everything the same as everyone else. Asking the industry to support our efforts to build these bridges doesn't mean we are beholden to them. If we keep our standards high and our organization's mission in the forefront, we will not be in the pockets of anyone.

    We will be focusing on installer and inspector cooperation and educating each other to the standards and practices of those disciplines. It would not be out of line for a tool vendor to offer a random drawing prize, or pens, coffee cups and mouse pads with their logo on them for the swag each registered attendee takes home. What better way to increase attendance to such an important event?

    I wouldn't want to see Shaw there to promote their flooring products because that has very little to do with the focus of this workshop. But a company that manufactures tools and equipment used in inspections would be a good addition. BR-111 might not be a good idea to be there representing their hardwood, but a supplier that offers cameras and other products useful to installers and inspectors would be nice to have, especially if they added a disposable camera to the swag bag or gave away a 2 or 300 hundred dollar camera in a random drawing.

    This does not have to have the appearance of a commercial event, but having the support of the industry will not come without us supporting them too. We need to work at cooperating with all segments of the industry and allowing part of the industry to display relevant products and literature, or staff a booth that can be used to recruit educated professionals for their own organizations shouldn't be discounted.

    Keeping it simple is important, but keeping it small isn't going to help reach the flooring professionals that need this training and information the most. If we maintain our focus on building bridges and have a core group of dedicated people to help us do that and grow as a recognized organization at the same time, we can keep it very simple for the attendees of all our events. Simple and educational and profitable and FUN.


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