Thinset for tack strip?

Discussion in 'Carpet Sales and Installations' started by Barry Carlton, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I rarely use the 7/8ths nails, 5/8ths hold just about everything.
     
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  2. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    long and thin goes too far in, short and thick does the trick ;)
     
  3. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Some times. Our concrete here is most times too hard for the fat nails. Thin work, fat blows out.
     
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  4. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor Senior Member

    I had a guy that travels around and overseas the construction of O'Reilly's and he said our concrete was the hardest he's ever seen
     
  5. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    He hasn't been to Michigan then. Ours is full of those black river rock and sometimes coal that makes it spall on its own.

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    Daris
     
  6. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

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  7. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

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    Would it be the same people using the same methods pouring residential slabs that pour slabs in commercial buildings? That would be rare in any metropolitan area but might make sense in rural markets.

    There's almost no predicting what the slab is going be like to nail into out here given so many contractors over so many years using their own crews and mixtures/blends/system.

    In fact last week the shop was slow and I was sitting home for a day, they called and asked if I wanted to do some stretch carpet. First thing I thought of was the last handful of jobs I stretched carpet over pad over the last decade and the struggles getting the tack strip in. Now if you're a residential carpet guy you have to be ALL IN and get 'er done. I'm really not that guy nor will I ever be in this life. I told the shop I wasn't FULLY equipped at this time to go out. I know how they roll and they'd have sent me alone with 250 s/y that HAD to be done in a day. No thanks.
     
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  8. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor Senior Member

    Not uncommon here, and the aggregate comes from the same area. It's all relatily the same.
     
  9. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    To drill a 1/4" hole in concrete is twice the time and effort as drilling an 1/8" hole...how much do you charge for concrete?
     
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  10. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    I am still blown away anyone is drilling dowels into concrete to install rug. I can honestly say I have never even contemplated this. If I was that desperate I think I would just blow the money on ramshots lol
     
  11. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    I like it for removal options. Still no SDS in an 1/8" smallest I've seen is 5/32 for Tapcons.
     
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  12. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor Senior Member

    Not necessarily, a hole takes about 3 seconds with an sds hammer drill. Regular old hammer drills are much slower

    I say the same thing about guys gluing tack down, seems almost foolish to have to wait.
     
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  13. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    Man, if i cannot nail it i PAM it down, then nail it some more. I cannot honestly remember the last floor i could not nail into and that isn't just me being "one of those guys" Those 5/8 stubbies smash into anything... almost. I even carry 1" concrete nails for days that really aren't going so well. I will never use construction adhesive again, for anything.... except maybe construction.
     
  14. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor Senior Member

    I agree, almost never drill unless necessary. But when you need your tricks, they can save you a day of labor
     
  15. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    I'm going to try this next time I'm on crete, even if it doesn't need it. Just another good option when I need it. Cannot see it being a time friendly adventure though. Agree it would be faster than glue and come back the next day however.
     
  16. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    I've put fluted case hardened nails in Crete after drilling and I'm gonna say craters 2" wide are going to be inevitable. But for removing strip with regular nails I use the light rubber mallet and the Crain molding lifter to pop them up.

    Stubbies don't work too well here, green concrete works well with the narrow standard nails.

    I bought about 10 lbs of concrete shiny silver nails at Habitat before they Internet searched everything for pricing.
     
  17. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    When I started we never drilled anything, used 1/2" skinny concrete nails when it was hard, just had to use twice as many.
     
  18. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    I use to bend nails and pop the Crete a lot. Sometimes I got in the zone when I knew they were down tight. Usually I'd have to add nails in the corners due to powerstretching. Very annoying when stretching middle wall and you hear the "pop" sound, gotta say every once in awhile I pretended not to hear it. These days I can't hear much anyway.
     
  19. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Takes a heavy hammer and a hard hit. I learned from a guy that would get so mad when a strip popped when we were stretching that I can't ever have a loose strip, anywhere. Guess that's why I like glue so much.
     
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  20. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    Man, the worst thing about learning this trade was learning to nail concrete smooth edge for an angry man that power stretched everything. I still have nightmares
     
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