Nail depth

Discussion in 'Solid and Engineered Hardwood Q&A' started by otterslide, May 26, 2018.

  1. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    The Paslode came with the push rod down and didn't fire on the first hit because of that.. is that normal and same as P245? After the first hit the rod went up and then the nail lined up properly.

    Also they didn't even include an air hose connector with it, or manual.. Seems strange selling a tool with no manual.

    I'm just trying to figure out what's normal, because I believe people bought these units and returned them, and possibly stole parts off them.. since I'm getting it from a big box store. I returned the first one because the nail holding assembly had only one hole holding it down, instead of two and one screw was missing..but the hole wasn't even there for it in the holder, just in the tool body. Very strange..
  2. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    almost no air tools will come with the fittings. There are too many fittings people have for them to be specific. I know because every time I buy tools I forget the fittings and have to make a second trip back to the store :)

    It isn't terribly uncommon for the firing pin to be in the down position before being activated.. that wouldn't worry me too much. Make sure it is oiled!
  3. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    Ok, I put in about 10 drops of oil. It says to oil weekly only. Some tools say daily.
    It's working pretty good, almost no cracking at all, quite amazing. Haven't had a tongue split at all.
  4. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    This is good news, however when oiling tools you might want to use less. Less is more. Usually a drop or two will do. Too much oil can cause back pressure in the machine and blow your seals.

    I am glad you have managed to get your project back on track!!
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  5. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    I’ll second what Mark said about not using too much oil. I’ve got a nail gun that quit sinking nails after someone put in 10 drops of oil. I usually put in 3 or 4 drops at a time and if it’s going to be a long day I’ll put in another 3 or 4 drops during the 2nd half of the day.
  6. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    Ok good to know, thank you. I didn't put all 10 at once, so I think it should be ok.
    I put 5 when I got it new and then I put 5 more two days later. I'll cut down a bit, the manual should say how many drops, but it says a "few". I'll put no more than 3 at a time from now on.
  7. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    typically I put a drop or two in my guns about once every six months... mostly because I'm an idiot and forget. So far... so good.
  8. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    Ok, so now that I'm installing more wood I've come to another problem.. keeping the gaps between the wood as tight as possible.

    I'm learning which pieces will straighten and which ones won't. Sometimes I am left with 0.02" (0.5mm) gap between the planks in certain spots. For example they are tight at the ends, but in the middle there's the gap. I tried adding an extra hand nail to pull it tighter, but it won't budge..

    Is is ok to have a 0.02" gap? It seems the next boards are still lining up pretty good. My biggest concern was that adding a gap in one place will screw up the rest of the rows. I checked other houses and there are gaps all over the place, but they don't seem to propagate.. I don't understand how that works, I would've expected one gap in one row to be transferred to the next row, and keep going on and on..
  9. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    Has anybody used the Primatech P245?
    I'm really wondering if this Paslode F2N1 is exactly same quality, or a copy of the design but made with different quality parts..
    It's doing a so-so job, but I'm finding I have to use a lot of force to sink the nail flush still, it has been like this from the beginning, but it seems to be getting worse as I keep going.
    I can get the P245F and return this one, I just hope it won't be exactly the same thing.
    Online, Primatech says low force is required to sink the nail "perfectly".. The one I have is definitely not low force.
  10. otterslide

    otterslide Well-Known Member

    Ok so I called the repair store for Paslode/Primatech. The repair guy said the F2N1 is Primatech. He also said it's normal to be missing one of the screws that holds the nail rack. Somehow they started making one with two screws though, he had never heard of that, he said it must be a newer model because he has only seen with one screw.
    Unfortunately my 'newer' model never sank nails completely unless hit pretty hard and it seemed to get worse as I kept going so I had to return it.

    The repair guy said it's not normal, it should be a light tap, and it should sink completely. That was really never the case even from the beginning.

    Seems getting the right air gun for this job is quite a hassle. Home Depot rents out Bostitch MIII's.. they must be pretty durable if they can survive being rented. Whatever I had was not really the greatest at all.. there were scuffs/sanded spots on the body that looked like they were painted over, and I could feel the dip in the paint at that spot.. maybe it was refurbished/repaired?

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