Mannington LVT Adura

Discussion in 'Vinyl Flooring Q&A' started by Diann, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. RFI

    RFI Mr. Nefarious Senior Member

    I am also saying that there is more to it then just relabeling an adhesive than we think. Especially on the resilient side of floorcovering. Even though we installers do not think the mills put anytime in the adhesive side, trust me they do.

    Think back 10, 15 years ago. There were probably two main characteristics of adhesive any of us cared about, How quick did grab, and what was the cost. Now everything has changed. We have to change with it. Now we have to think of open time and working time, Voc and air quality, environmental impact of adhesives, rolling loads and adhesive displacement, moisture and alkalinity issues.

    So do you still think that all adhesives are the same? Every floorcovering product has its own unique characteristics. Every mill tweeks their product for a sales approach to be better then the other. The adhesives have to be matched to the differences.

    Stating that you can go out and buy a top quality adhesive is not enough. Some of these flooring products take a special adhesive.
     
  2. Diann

    Diann Member

    I called Mannington in the beginning. They said they would not warranty the floor if the glue used did something to their floor. Or the way I heard it, anything that might happen is because the wrong glue was used.
     
  3. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Sorry if it was stated earlier but was this over a concrete slab or plywood , I'm just trying to figure on how removal of adhesive residue can be accomplished other than skimcoat.
    And as incognito said that is more important( mixing, etc) or something to that effect.
     
  4. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

    Mannington is in a tough spot Diann, because it's hard to put into words what they mean. They CANT absolve themselves of ANY failure just because THEIR glue wasn't used. But if the substitution is the direct or possibly even indirect CAUSE of failure then you have no claim against the factory who made the planks. You STILL have a 100% valid claim against the store and their installers.

    The issues RFI is focusing our attention to is the COMPATIBILITY of the special chemicals in each manufacturer's backings that in some instance require not only their specific glue but strict attention to their instructions on prep, trowel notch, open time, working time, rolling with the 100 lb roller.........traffic, maintenance.......the list seems endless but boil it all down and it's very basic common sense----FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

    We all cheat here and there a tad. That's not really what's at issue here. Your case is flagrant...........sleazy even.
     
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