Least toxic options

Discussion in 'Carpet Q&A' started by laerder, May 23, 2014.

  1. laerder

    laerder New Member

    Floor Pros -- With an autoimmune disease, I am considering porcelain tile for most rooms in my house, but still have three rooms I'd like to carpet. Please give me your advice on the best carpet for low VOC's/little to no chemical treatment. All local stores know to tell me is that off-gassing occurs for about 72 hours, and then the smells should be gone. It's actually not "smells" that are the concern, but long term low-level chemical release. I can't seem to find dealers who know anything about these issues. Especially when I ask about padding from recycled materials or low toxic-adhesives. Their eyes glaze over.

    Would I need to go "wool", and is Karastan the best company for that?

    Are there "lone-wolf" carpet companies out there truly handling these carpet/health issues?

    Thank you!
  2. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Maybe contact Carpet and Rug Institute and Carpet Cushion Council, though my info is dated and CCC may have been absorbed by CRI.
  3. Steve Forbo

    Steve Forbo Pro Member

    If you are dead set on carpet, then wool will be the healthiest.
    But if you want extreme low maintenance and about as "green" as possible, look into Forbo Marmoleum or MCT(Marmoleum Tile). Nothing toxic, 100% natural, no waxing, any design you could imagine, no place for bacteria to grow, will last 50 years, etc etc etc...
  4. The Flooring Girl

    The Flooring Girl Pro Member

    I would recommend wool as it's natural product. Sisal also is, but it's not soft on your feet.

    For carpet pad, maybe check out Shaw's triple touch which is hypoallergenic. Also, felt padding could work.
  5. ortiz34

    ortiz34 2nd generation Senior Member

    All good advice so far,Marmoleum, cri green label plus, wool , felt padding etc.. best of luck with your health.

    I'd stay away from anything mainstream product wise (ie Mohawk Shaw), when they say it's green they really mean your money in their pocket. Based on your research it sounds like you are educated.
  6. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Karastan is a great carpet if you get carpet. We use their pad which is heathier choice stamped with their name which is like a memory foam pad. I like wool carpet, it lasts and cleans easily.
  7. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Ortiz, do you know that Mohawk owns Karastan?
  8. ortiz34

    ortiz34 2nd generation Senior Member

    Mohawk owns and has bought out great mills like Horizon, Galaxy, Alladin, Customweave, Wundaweave, Karastan, Columbia hardwood, unilin Quickstep, Pergo, dal-tile and many more.

    I recommend everyone do your own research
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  9. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Here's Shaws acquisitions from their website,nice growth!
    Shaw Timeline

    Adding Value Through The Years

    1846 - Philadelphia Carpets Company is founded to produce velvet carpets, beginning a legacy that spans the history of carpet in America.
    1946 - Shaw got its start as, Star Dye Company, a company to dye rugs, spreads, and robes.
    1958 - Star Dye starts dyeing carpet.
    1967 - A holding company is formed to acquire Philadelphia Carpet Company. The holding company adds Star Finishing, which evolved out of Star Dye, to the fold one year later.
    1971 - Philadelphia Holding Company goes public as Shaw Industries, Inc.
    1972 - Shaw takes the first step toward vertical integration by acquiring New Found Industries to generate its own yarn supply.
    1973 - Recognizing the potential of continuous dyeing processes, Shaw acquires Elite Processing, a state-of-the-art continuous dye plant.
    1982 - Shaw creates its own trucking subsidiary, dramatically improving the quality and speed of shipments to retailers nationwide.
    1982 - Shaw significantly expands direct sales to small, independent retailers, providing better service and removing costs from their bottom lines.
    1983 - Shaw establishes regional distribution centers. By the end of 1983, Shaw maintains six regional DCs. Shaw opens three more in the following two years and 20 more over the next twenty.
    1983 - Shaw acquires six yarn spinning mills, furthering its vertical integration and giving Shaw 100 percent of its own yarn supply.
    1984 - Shaw launches PRIDE, its internal quality process. The training, tracking, and goal-setting helps Shaw manufacture products to the highest quality standards.
    1987 - Shaw Industries purchases WestPoint-Pepperell Carpet and Rug Division, acquiring the Cabin Crafts and Stratton brands and adding 40 percent to the company's sales volume.
    1989 - Shaw Industries acquires the carpet division flagship Evans & Black brand of Armstrong World Industries, Inc., adding 30 percent to sales volume.
    1992 - Shaw Industries acquires Salem Carpet Mills, Inc., adding 25 percent to sales volume with the Salem Carpets and Sutton brands.
    1992 - Shaw acquires Amoco's polypropylene fiber production facilities, becoming the largest producer of polypropylene fiber in the world. The move helps Shaw customers capitalize on the tremendous growth of Berber styles.
    1992 - Shaw launches Home Foundations, a comprehensive carpet program designed specifically for builders.
    1993 - As area rugs grow in both use and popularity, Shaw forms the Shaw Rugs division.
    1998 - Shaw merges with Queen Carpets. Their respective strengths form a company even more committed to meeting the needs of the marketplace and bringing value to customers.
    1998 - Shaw commits to being a full-service flooring supplier by creating the Hard Surfaces division with the launch of Shaw Ceramics.
    1999 - Shaw Contract receives the Georgia Governor's Pollution Prevention Award for its revolutionary EcoWorx backing system, which is 100 percent recyclable into the production of more backing.
    2000 - Shaw says "yes" to its proposed acquisition by Berkshire Hathaway, Inc., the holding company of renowned financier Warren E. Buffett, who has been called the ultimate long-term investor.
    2002 - Shaw opens its new, state-of-the-art laminate manufacturing facility. It is Shaw's first step into the manufacturing of hard surface flooring.
    2002 - Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway acquires the 12.7% of Shaw Industries it didn't already own, giving it 100% ownership.
    2003 - Shaw completes its purchase of the north Georgia operations of the Dixie Group, acquiring such brands as Carriage Carpets, Bretlin, and Globaltex.
    2006 - Vance Bell is named Shaw's new CEO, and Randy Merritt is named President.
    2006 - Shaw purchases 100% ownership in Evergreen Nylon Recycling, the nylon recycling operation in Augusta, GA. The Evergreen plant uses patented technology to convert post-consumer nylon carpet into new nylon fiber.
    2006 - Shaw announces plans to convert a former yarn plant in South Pittsburg, TN into a manufacturing facility for engineered hardwood.
    2007 - Shaw received Cradle to Cradle[emoji769] Certification for the company's EcoWorx[emoji769] backing and Eco Solution[emoji769] nylon from McDonough Braungart Design Chemistry.
    2007 - Shaw acquires Anderson Hardwood Floors.
    2008 - Shaw named large Recycler of the Year by the Carpet America Recovery Effort (CARE), a joint industry-government initiative to promote carpet recycling, reuse, and waste reduction of post-consumer carpet.
    2008 - Shaw acquires Zickgraf Hardwood Flooring.
    2009 - Shaw acquires Sportexe Construction Services, Inc., a leading synthetic turf company dedicated to sports surfacing.
    2009 - Shaw's Epic[emoji769] hardwood receives Cradle to Cradle[emoji769] certification.
    2009 - Shaw's Evergreen Recycling wins EPA/CARE Innovations in Carpet Recycling Award.
    2009 - Shaw introduces BCF ClearTouch[emoji769] with recycled content.
    2009 - The company starts up Clear path Recycling, the largest plastic bottle recycling facility in the United States.
    2009 - Shaw releases its first sustainability report.
    2010 - Shaw builds Re2E, a facility that uses post-consumer carpet to generate steam energy and electricity to run an adjacent plant, saving enough fossil fuel each year to power 7,500 homes.
    2010 - Anso[emoji768] nylon earns SCS certification to claim 25% recycled content.
    2010 - Shaw acquires Stuart Hardwood
    2010 - Shaw named in Georgia Trend Magazine Best Places to Work.
    2010 - Shaw becomes the first flooring manufacturer inducted into American textile Hall of Fame.
    2011 - Shaw reaches a milestone of 1/2 billion pounds of post-consumer carpet collected and recycled.
    2011 - Shaw invests in Geohay, a manufacturer of patented barrier filtration products made from 100% reclaimed carpet fibers that are used to help control erosion and storm water run-off.
    2011 - Shaw acquires Southwest Greens
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  10. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    Spillguard and stainmaster pads have a moisture barrier. this plastic sheet will keep the urethane foam and binding agents from directly contacting the rest of the room.
    Wool is the best fiber bar none second is nylon because it mimics some (but not all) of the characteristics of wool.
  11. mcbrides

    mcbrides Canadian Installers Senior Member

    I do agree with you about the moisture barrier, but we have found that Stainmaster pads have a great variance in density in each roll. Healthier Choice would by my best suggestion.

    Also wool (which by the way also comes in sisal construction) would be your best bet. Just be sure you aren't allergic to it ~ I AM. I just keep Claritin in my backpack when I'm working. :D

  12. Floored by Newman

    Floored by Newman Floored by Newman

    Wool with horse hair pad ;)
  13. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Maybe no voc's but what about allergy or mold growth due to the organic nature of those products ?
  14. Floored by Newman

    Floored by Newman Floored by Newman

    Good point...That's about as green as it gets. Right? Everything has chemicals. I really worry about my health in handling flooring daily.
  15. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Better than working at a Harbor Freight breathing that toxic stuff in .
    Latest studies from MRI shows memory loss in older patients who were exposed to paints/chemicals etc.
    When I'm installing with adhesives I turn the A/C to @72 degrees and leave the door opened or a window, yeah it's wasting energy , I'm sure the homeowners aren't happy.
  16. Fuzzy Sideup

    Fuzzy Sideup Pro Member

    There are wool pads available as well. The one chemical found (not naturally) in wool is permethrin which is used as an insecticide against moths in the early production stages of processing the wool.

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