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Discussion in 'Taking a Break From Flooring' started by Lo Down, Jun 5, 2009.

  1. Jackreed

    Jackreed jackreed Charter Member

    I agree beautiful work. I laid some flooring for a guy that does wildlife photgrapy. has a house along the river with food plots set up for deer, turkeys and other wildlife. He leases his pictures out to banks hospitals and big corporations by the month and changes them every so often. He also sells them. Yours is artist quaility.:yesss::yesss::yesss::yesss:
     
  2. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member


    I don't speak well with a keyboard sometimes.
    I was referring to the photos of the sun pillar and the green flash. Those are fun to look at or for informative value, but not really worth wall space.
    The other photos I have been showing have all been made into framed photos at one time or another. A couple came out great even when enlarged to poster sized. That's what I was striving for when I took them. I found it easy to get a crisp image at an 8 by 10 size, but I wanted them sharp at larger sizes. All my photos shot from a tripod because they are shot at slow shutter speeds.
    Thanks for all the nice comments. I have wanted to 'show off' these photo, but untill recently it was too expensive to have them converted to a CD locally. Last ones I had done cost $7.50 per slide.
    I got 60 of these done for $20.
    There are a couple of other places such as usefilm.com and Flickr where I have wanted to show these, but I thought I would treat my bestest buddies first. :yesss:
     
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  3. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain Owner/Founder Administrator

    I certainly appreciate that. Beautiful work, Lo, thanks for sharing it with us.

    Jim
     
  4. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Long exposures can be really cool sometimes. Photos like these are difficult with slide film because slide film is quite unforgiving. If the initial slide is underexposed, or overexposed you can't brighten and darken them successfully when printing.............. the slide is either good, good enough..... or garbage. Print type film is extremely forgiving, but I chose slides because of the fine grain and the long life of the actual slide image............ even 30 years later, the colors on the slide are still accurate. Maybe these days a bad slide can be saved through a digital process. :hmmm:
    Here's a couple of long exposures of the rocks along the coast. I recall the first is probably at least 4 seconds and maybe 15, the second is longer than that maybe a minute.
    I opened the shutter as the wave hit the rocks, then as the water was receding, it left so haziness you see. Shooting these kind of images are like a box of chocolates so to speak, 'cause you never know what's coming back in the box of developed slides............... Once in a great while a WOW, or more often, total junk.
    I think I had to use a polarizing filter, or maybe two of them to obtain such a slow shutter speed. That's probably why the colors are so freaky. I converted them to B&W to see if it looks better in a more natural look.
     

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  5. Jon Scanlan

    Jon Scanlan That Kiwi Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Lo do you want to avail yourself as a professional photographer to come on this Mediterranean cruise with us in September? The only way I get good photos is to buy a calendar, postcards or a DVD. Me real good at getting lots of footpath shots, video camera doesn't work like a drill, it carries on filming when it should have been turned off, I keep on forgetting to wait for the "beeb beep" before pushing the button on digital, blurry pictures, the sun is always behind what I want to take a picture of, the camera case strap gets in the way, you name it I have done it. Of coarse the pay will not be any good for you but I will get some good photos :yesss::D
     
  6. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    That's a wonderful offer Jon, but what if a sneaker wave like this hits the ship? :eek:
    The second photo was taken a mile further south on a different day. I have never seen the water this smooth. It was at low tide in a bay like cove.
    Jon, toss the digital and get a real camera. :D
     

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  7. Jon Scanlan

    Jon Scanlan That Kiwi Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I would suggest you bring wet weather gear to take the photo then as I will be well hidden under the bunk :D
    Re those photos I like them warm sunny stuff. Not that cold wet windy stuff
    If you ever got down here to Auckland we get 4 seasons of weather in one day. BUT none of that white stuff :)
    You mean to say I could take photos like you if I had a real camera? :ohno: You are the gun
     
  8. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    OK, lets do warm for ya. Nice summer day and it was a goo 65 or more early evening.
    I messed with hand correcting on this one. I made the silhouette all black in the second photo and corrected a small light circle in the right hand portion of the sky............. man, this it time consuming. :coffee:
    Which one looks better?
     

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  9. Jon Scanlan

    Jon Scanlan That Kiwi Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Probably the left one. It looks like as it should be. But the black silhouette kinda makes the picture if it was going to be blown up with a picture frame around it
     
  10. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    I have two favorite tree shots also. The first one is at the same beach as the previous sea lion/sunset photo. That day, no sunset came to be and as I was walking back down the beach to the climb the trail to the parking lot, something was happening. Some fog was coming both around the cliff and also over it, making a fog samwich ;) I climbed the bank to get the tree in the best position and got one decent shot before the scene changed.

    The second photo is a tree at an inland/coastal mountain called Vulcan Peak. On a clear day, you can see the ocean from here. This is at the edge of the Kalamiopsis Wilderness area. It's 120 miles south and another 35 miles inland from Brookings, Oregon.
    It's a one mile hike to the peak but this tree is closer to the trail head. I've hiked up there a handful of times, but never could see anything to photograph. It's kind of rocky and barren with a few small trees and scrub brush along the zig zaggy trail to the top.
    There was some snow on the ground this time and the sky was clear as ever. As I hiked above the trail head this evening, this tree started talking to me :rolleyes:
    It raised it branch and shouted "pick me, pick me". :D
    The tree sets off the trail on the very edge of the hill. I climbed down over the edge into the snow covered brush and looked upwards at the tree.............. yup, that was the angle. I went back up and grabbed my wide angle lens and tripod and got one of my best shots ever................ I really love this one. Look close and you can see an inch of snow on the lower branch.
    I converted these to black and white also, and each version has it's own merits.
     

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  11. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    I have another favorite tree. It's on a place called Bearcamp Ridge. Bearcamp is a 5000 foot peak about 130 miles away. It's a well traveled back road above the Rogue River in southern Oregon, east Gold Beach. Well traveled in the summer that is. In the winter they don't maintain the road, so snow can get pretty deep up here. In the past 15 years, two people have died up there. Both out of state people traveling the road as a short cut between the coastal highway 101 to Interstate 5 during winter. They put up warning signs, but nobody has brains these days. :ohno:
    Anyway, this time I was able to make it within a 1/4 mile of the top, so I had to walk the road a little before climbing the trail to this mountain top meadow. Most people have no clue this trail is even there...... 20 feet from the road.
    I spent the night in my camper near the top and it rained cats and dogs. I had no clue that was going to be a good thing. I was kinda bummed out. It's a long drive for nothing.
    The rain turned into a blessing. When I got up to the meadow I noticed this small dead tree and all that rain had washed any snow from the branches, leaving an almost black tree against the white snow................... or in my case, I underexposed the film and the snow turned bluish on the film.......... It still came out good and I have made a couple of enlargements as gifts for relatives.
    But now thanks to technology.................... I can turn that image into black and white.
    Long story short, here's the original, a conversion to black and white and another where I cleaned up the tree to make the tree totally black. I like that one best.
     

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  12. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain Owner/Founder Administrator

    Beautiful pictures, Lo. You know, you can upload much larger images here - I mean really big. Then I can steal a couple and print them out to hang on my wall. :shifty: Or even use them for wallpaper on my computer (1280x1024 resolution or larger). ;)

    Jim
     
  13. mcbrides

    mcbrides Canadian Installers Senior Member

    Fantastic work, Lo, you live in a beautiful place, have you ever considered showing these pics to the Department of Tourism? I get an emailing from National Geographic once a month of the month's best pics; had one of a couple riding horses along a misty Oregon beach as my wallpaper for quite some time. Your shots are just as good. Keep them coming. :yesss:
     
  14. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    You do know that I'm gonna be a bit pissed if I find any of these selling in a bin at Wall Mart for $9.00. :yell::yell::yell::D

    One thing I almost never have in my photos are people....... and that's a deliberate choice. I strive more for one of a kind 'artsy' photos than photography in general.
    One thing our department of tourism has in their pictures, is photos of people and families enjoying activities. That said, I have never looked into how to submit photos to them.

    Times have changed a lot since I looked into doing this for a business. I actually started a business checking account many years ago with the intent on making a go of it............... I had no clue as to how to make the next step. My photos are of no use for magazines because I never leave any "head space" (blank space on top and to the sides for the magazine for their name or article topics.)

    Being as nit picky as I am, I always over do everything. My vision was gallery stuff, not volume. Last I checked, it cost about $125 to digitize a single slide at high quality a professional lab in Portland.............the place that has done all my enlargements.
    It costs more than that to print that image as an oil print rather than a standard print. If I was selling these, that's the route I would want to follow. Oil prints are considered archival ....meaning they last forever. High end product, high end price.
    If they digitize the print, then any time you request one, it will be reproduced identically to any previous print. This also eliminates the old way of mailing a slide and negative to them..................... Like I said, it's been many years since I had thought of selling these professionally. Heck, I don't even know if Windows 98 had even come out yet. :D

    Years ago, I had bought "The Photographers Handbook" , a book listing contacts to sell photos to including stock photo agencies, businesses, industry, universities etc. It showed pricing structures and a lot of other info.
    Another book was on pricing and selling photography. Believe it or not they have "hacks" too. People selling prints at far below market value which makes it harder to sell at a profit. I cannot imagine how much it actually cost me to get that Vulcan Peak or Snow Spirit image. Both were weekend trips, and those were the only images I got worth a mention on either trip.
    So two trips, at probably $150 each, 14 years ago. There were many weekends I never even pulled the camera out of the bag because weather didn't cooperate. It can be a very expensive business to be in.
    I do however have all these images today, so selling these would not incur any of those expenses.
    Those books showed me that photography is 14 days in the office and one day shooting............ that right there took the wind out of my sails (sales :D )
    Doing a search on photography for sale shows what a competitive industry this is. Thousands of people with fantastic websites and photos.
    I do realize that I have some very nice stuff and appreciate all the very nice comments, and the advice offered.

    Bottom line is that I enjoy taking the photos. My mind isn't getting any better at organizing things, and the photography business is all about organization. A mediocre photographer with a strong drive, and good business skills would have easily wiped out Ansel Adams had he not successfully marketed his product.
    You guys have sparked my interest in this again, so who knows?
     
  15. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Let me try a 1280 by 960............ I don't know how to make one 1280 by 1024 with Irfanview. I upped the quality to 100% also.
    Everyone likes a seagull, but hows about a pink and blue sunset? :yesss: It's from Kodachrome 25 as I recall. This shot is reeeaaaly old, but the beach is still there. :yesss:
    Everything was right this evening. Shutter speed was slow as you can see th waves are soft. I've never seen a sunset with such cool colors....... I bet the seagull was thinkin the same thing. ;)
     

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  16. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Still water is always good. This is in the Sky Lakes area in southern oregon Cascade Mountains. Tiny lake, and right next to the road where I camped.......... no hiking involved. Just whoop up some Cup-O-Noodles and sip a beer or three as the light gets right.
    Robert, it's between Medford and Klamath Falls near Fish Lake if that means anything to you. Right at the Base of Mt McLaughlin.

    Second photo is some kind of grass in the water............. water grass.. yea, watergrass.... that's the ticket! ;) It's at Game lake. A tiny lake at the end of a road where one trail head into the Kalmiopsis Wilderness Area begins.
    There was a huge forest fire that raged through this area in 2002, starting in southern Oregon and northern California. There were 375 fires in 4 days sparked by lightning, and the 5 merged to become the Biscuit Fire.
    It started in early July and was fully contained on December 31st. Until reading this article, I had forgotten how long it took to be fully extinguished. By Late December, mother nature had certainly played a part in this. Tho I haven't been in that area since the fire, I don't know what it looks like. Probably pretty good. Fires never wipe out everything, and much of the timber was logged and replanted in the non-wilderness areas.
    Biscuit Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Many of my images are dark and moody, ( I like em that way) but they look a bit different in a print. These slide to CD conversions are pretty accurate. I'm impressed with the quality they did, especially for the price.
     

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  17. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain Owner/Founder Administrator

    Not to worry. They told me, if I put a mat on them, they could move them pretty good at $10.99 each. ;) I'll split it with ya. :yesss:

    I only said 1280x1024 because that's my screen resolution. You would have to crop or change the aspect ratio of a larger image to do it. I can use any size picture for wallpaper. Here's what yours looks like in the aspect ratio you took it in and again when I changed the aspect ratio. Sometimes a picture looks bad when you change the aspect ration and you can prob'ly see the difference, but as wallpaper, it's not bad. Thanks. :D
     

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  18. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Looks like the seagull lost some weight, but he probably needed to anyway. :D
    Most of my photos would look just fine if the ratio was changed.
    I asked on the Irfanview forum and one guy said I need to update my drivers for this new flatscreen, or install a new graphics card so my own view could matched the ratio of a slide image.
    As is, I have 3 choices.
    800 by 600 / 1024 by 768 / 1280 by 1024
    I was concerned because my personal view on my monitor of the slides I was resizing, changed drastically when turned them 90 degrees during editing.
     
  19. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    One thing I didn't think of mentioning to anyone. If you feel inclined to email these to anyone, please resize them so the quality is diminished. I don't have a way to watermark them with a copyright................... and even if I did, it would screw up the views you guys would see here............ and I wouldn't want that. :ohno:
    Feel free to use em for a screen saver if you want to. If you need a larger size, I can do it.
     
  20. Lo Down

    Lo Down Old as dirt member Charter Member Senior Member

    Water is always good and I have posted one of these here before.
    Bolivar Creek is at the edge of the Wild Rogue Wilderness in southern Oregon, not far from the Hippy on a Rock photo.

    I try converting some of these to black and white, but they don't do all that well. Black and white photography done correctly, really requires black and white film and the use of colored filters to make the individual parts of the image have distinction. Black and white is a world of it's own and I never got into that.
    The second one is of Imnaha Creek. It's near the head of the Rogue river, southwest of Crater Lake.

    ....................wait, I almost forgot, I have a Crater Lake photo here too. :dance:
     

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