Herringbone Carpet Layout

Discussion in 'Spotlight on Flooring Professionalism' started by Incognito, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

    Speaking of a Shit Sandwich and taking small bites-------------the overspray from the Monocote (insulation) was the #1 reason I pitched a bitch against this GC (Day #1 so many months ago) and started the whole "change order process". That means I'll do the extra work but you have to pay AND assume/give me the extra time. Well they've got plenty of money. But no time. So in the end it was a real cluster%$#^.

    LOVE working with my buddy Juan and he did a great job "all in" but I really dont like eating the shit sandwich whether it's offered in small bites or huge gulps. He was the better man to "run" this project because of his patience and willingness to cooperate. Me? 90% of this job was done GRAVEYARD SHIFT in 4 10 hour evenings. I did a couple floors as lead man then begged off. They called me back a few time to help out and then to finish. I think if I had stayed on I would have gone batshit crazy from the nonsense the GC was sticking to us. My limit/tolerance leve ain't what it used to be. Multiply my intolerance level by 1000% after 4PM. Thank God for Pepe (Juan)

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  2. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member

    The world of commercial flooring is just another beast! I can’t fathom some of the crap you guys put up with, and for such long periods of time.
     
  3. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

    It's much worse than you might imagine.

    times 10
     
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  4. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    I second that motion.
    Somehow my pea sized brain would think smart people ran these operations.... turns out most times I'm wrong.
    It's like anything though, you mostly remember the bad ones. I haven't had a lot of bad experiences ( oh we didn't realize you needed power) in my travels (yeah we took that 40 foot section of window out in november) that I remember (what do you mean we can't put the 4500 lb granite desk on the cork) but I bet there were a few (guess we should have removed the skyjacker BEFORE the flooring) I could probably list off if I tried (no no, don't worry that the ceiling leaks, just get that vct down.... we have buckets). I'll spare ya all the tales :)
     
  5. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member

    I have had a couple of experiences on commercial jobsites that lead me believe that the guys running the job are one notch above monkeys on the evolutionary scale and they’re always surprised when you can’t put down vct without some prep, or why you might need to have the whole hallway to lay sheet goods. Thankfully for me, I regularly deal with the average Neandrerthal general contractors that at least have some incentive to make sure things work out so you can get on your way and they can get paid.
     
  6. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

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    On the low end or............"light commercial" sector it can be extreme how piss poor a General Contractor can be as far as having decent subs and competent superintendants. My shop doesn't deal too much any more with those guys but you never know who's going to be the next multi-billion dollar firm so it pays to keep your eyes open. Mostly, when we're getting the shit end of the stick it's not due to gross incompetence. It's a conscious decsion by SOMEONE on site or any of the levels above that to...........SCREW THOSE GUYS.

    See, I no longer can pretend I don't know who is pissing in my Cheerios. So it's much harder to be pleasant and cooperative.

    Screw them right back.................OK, wind it down. My blood is starting to boil and I haven't even finish my first beer!
     
  7. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member

    Yeah, I have no problem telling the customer the reason their vct looks like crap is because the GC told them not to wax their floor when I specifically told them it must be done and how many coats of wax. Or maybe it was that they let the slab freeze and took a spud bar to chip off the ice and put 1000+ divots in the cafeteria, this list goes on. Now my blood is starting to boil!
     
  8. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

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    Not being my own boss means I have to clarify and negotiate with my employer and the idiot scumbag GC EXACTLY how and where we might cut corners. Hey, I'm all about upholding industry standards. But it's not my house and if my employer AND the customer want to skim along the bottom of the barrell I can TRY to do that absolute bare minimum prep.

    When the customer isn't happy about the end results I WILL have all the relevant Emails, text messages, photos and additional documentation.

    The captain goes down with the ship. If you want me to be the captain fine. But on crap like this I'm being treated and paid as a sailor 1rst Class and I'm swabbing the deck most of the day. So FU when the ship sinks. I'll be first one on the lifeboat. YOU go down with the ship!
     
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