Cove Base Dolly

Discussion in 'Floorcovering Installation & Maintenance Tips' started by Mike Antonetti, Nov 1, 2015.

  1. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In I Support TFP Senior Member

    How about that song ? .........."It's all about that Bass" :p
     
  2. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

    I'm kind of OCD when it comers to base. The polar opposite of pretty much everyone I work with. I see it as a sort of subliminal impact when the customer is walking in. They don't necessarily realize what it is they're not liking. Lumpy, wobbly, sloppy, HORRIBLE cove base is the norm throughout the commercial flooring industry.

    It starts with horrible concrete because the metal track for the studs twists and warps over the humps and valleys. Then the drywall hangers and tapers make it worse. Flooring guys simply aren't going to bend over backwards to correct this.......some of which isn't correctable without major demolition to the walls.

    So we smear glue on the back of the base, slap it up and walk away hoping it'll pass. There's only so much we can do and the industry standard is to do as little as you think you can get away with.

    I think the customer "feels" this more than they actually see and understand why. In my experience that subliminal dissatisfaction leads them to obsess over other things that would normally pass but are now subject to contention like shading issues, seam imperfections, neatness of cuts, caulking, transitions. They are DRAWN IN and now they're finding things they shouldn't ever be noticing.

    Yes, I'm crazy.
     
  3. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In I Support TFP Senior Member

    Crazy ? :ohno: your the genius, that attention to detail makes a difference, just like you said, even if acknowledgement isn't given.

    Now ! expecting the acknowledgement, that's OCD craziness because
    most, unfortunately are stingy with praise. :(

    Mike
     
  4. Incognito

    Incognito No more Mr. Nice Guy! I Support TFP Senior Member

    No one will ever say, "Man that cove base looks nice."
     
  5. mick47

    mick47 Pro Member

    They used to make a plastic base dolly with a lazy susan on it. They discontinued it, because it didn`t sell well. I was working on a school this summer, the shop sent out two base girls that had the base dollies. On the hall she grooved the outside corner, hooked it in the corner, pulled out 60 ft. with a rope tied to the dolly. She said she bought them years ago. Trust me she could hang base faster than anyone I have ever seen. I try not to hang base but I am going to make one. The work very well.
     
  6. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    I just bought two round tabletop looking pieces at Lowes, gonna screw them into a bucket dolly, their only 24" wide, I was going to cut wood circles 28" to fit through doorways, garbage can lids, totes, nothing was close. It will fall off edge but only on new roll, once twenty foot or so is off hopefully it won't fall around edge. I think they need to re continue making them. So 18$ each for the wood top it's not worth my time to cut.
     
  7. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    The cove base dolly is working good, the ridgid caulk gun(battery powered) is working too fast, gotta get past the learning curve.
     

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  8. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Well my brother broke one of the dollys, he said he tripped over the caulk gun and ended up breaking three wheels off bucket dolly. So he will find a way to break tools even if he has to hurt himself. Seriously, if there's a way to break something he will find it. Shoulda just bought 5 casters and screwed them on. I think the wheels close in the center helped it to spin, the last square dolly was a hassle, this seemed much less effort, but will tip easier.
     

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  9. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member


    Is that a country song? Or weird Al parody.

    It's all about the bass, no minnow.

    I think I would like attached adhesive but there may be the issue of adjusting base which would be troublesome.

    The carpet guys sanded the floors, created a lot of dust(osi mucho polvo) their roll carpet had defects in it, (looked like pink blotches) I could barely see them, retailer reordering, carpet tiles were fine.

    Foreman said he could tell difference from two crews, we grinded concrete for two days, no dust, they come in and a haze throughout the building in an hour. Plywood had some faint writing barely visible about titanium and breathing hazard.
     

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  10. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    So here's what I ended up with, bought 5 casters at 3.44$ each, worked very well, spun in circles easily.
     

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  11. casemill

    casemill Pro Member

    What you describe is the old adage that Perception is Reality. If a customer sees a shoddy detail, then they are put into 'high alert mode' for other deficiencies in the job. So, the only solution is to make sure that EVERYTHING that you do looks great.

    I've installed thousands and thousands of feet of cove base and carpet base. You are right. No one, that I can remember, complimented my cove base skills.
     
  12. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In I Support TFP Senior Member

    That's a sad truth, some of the time :(............. however, I bet you! complimented you! and that's the most important compliment, even though we don't think it is.

    For what it's worth Casemill ! Great Job with all that base installation in Texas, :yesss: I bet it looks B. E. A. utiful...and keep up the good work.

    Welcome !! to The Floor Pro

    Mike
     
  13. casemill

    casemill Pro Member

    Thanks for your recognition of my outstanding cove base work, Mike. And I, too, would like to say that I think that your cove base is the finest in the whole land! Keep up the good work! ;-)
     
  14. Majwoody

    Majwoody Pro Member

    LOL! I like installing base and take pride in being able to do it right. Most installers I talk to view base as a nuisance. I have watched guys take a good looking floor install and make it look like shit because they half-assed the base. They finally quit selling D-815 here. Maybe people will take the time to learn how to make a nice outside corner now.
    I don't know why but I get excited when I get a jacked up inside corner and get a perfect scribe fit.
     
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