Considering getting into the flooring trade (long post!)

Discussion in 'Flooring Potpourri' started by DownInGeorgia, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    First cat piss job with furniture and you’ll be ready to run conduit and pull wire again. I love floor covering but if I was giving advice to a youngster (I gave the same advice to my own kids) I’d tell them to do something different that won’t trash your body. It’s just not worth it. Benefits is another big deal. I’m not union and out of 22 some odd years of doing this, I’ve only had one company that even offered benefits to their employee installers until they went belly up. Stick with the electrical gig.
     
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  2. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    I really appreciate the advice. Benefits are a huge deal. I'm 26 now but I still wish I could afford insurance and I'm definitely thinking about retirement as well. Flooring seems to be a field where you have to do for your own retirement by being diligent about putting it away yourself.
     
  3. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    Insurance, retirement, vacations and anything else you want/ need is all on you. Not to mention you are wondering about getting into a trade that still pays 20+ year old pricing. WHY would anyone want to do that. Any way a failing job can be pinned on you, it will. Piss. Furniture. Accelerated schedule, you can stay late. Soooo many reasons to not get into floor covering.

    I’m already in the pool, you’re not. Don’t jump in. But if you must...You could be my helper. I’ll make you load and unload the van while I BS with other installers. I’ll make you lift anything heavy and/ or stinky while I BS with grandma. Furniture has your name on it. I pick you up when I decide we need to start. You work until I say we’re done. Weekends. Evenings. Skip lunch. What’s not to love about learning floor covering. On a positive note, I don’t touch carpet;)
     
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  4. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Here’s a sample pic I took a few days ago. When aircraft mechanics walk out of school making 60k a year, plus there’s many new reports of top jobs that just came out without college degree making over 50k
     

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  5. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    Dang 25k max for 5 years experience? Holy cow....
     
  6. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    Down and dirty truth of the trade. I really appreciate the insight
     
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  7. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    man guys, don't let my apprentice see this. He is 6 months in and making 35000 a year, I pick him up because I havent lost my license yet...

    trying my best to be the change I want to see ( and puke)
     
  8. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I would look into something that is a specialty, like micro toppings or pool decks or epoxy/polyphatic coatings. They're easier on the body. Just wish I found them 20 years ago.
     
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  9. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    It’s funny what I read about ads, some will even help you get insurance. How nice of them.

    If I had some spare time I would F with all these SOB’s
     

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  10. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    You can make money down here for sure but it won’t be working for someone else. I don’t see 50K or more being unrealistic as a self employed journey level installer. A younger motivated individual could make seriously more. If you are willing to invest the time, you can make good money in floor covering but it comes with a hidden cost. I hurt. Prolly fair to say that after many years on our knees, most of us hurt. Funny thing is, I don’t hurt while I’m working. So now I gotta keep working. It’s a trap I tell ya. That and the ability to make a grand cash in a weekend. That sealed the deal for me umpteen years ago. Now, I couldn’t do something else even if I tried and money is no longer a factor. Well... not as much.
     
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  11. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    I know I'm getting honesty because some of you are telling me to REALLY think about it. That I WILL hurt and there MAY be good money of I get skilled. This is why I joined this forum prior to making a decision! I really appreciate all the honesty.
     
  12. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Kinda freaky if you ask me, I was never told any of this. They reel you right in at the local level. It’s good to know now if you decide to enter the flooring trade you know your destiny.
     
  13. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    I suppose to be fair, I tried really hard to talk my apprentice out of doing it before I hired him. Long hours, hard work, short career.... have to put up with me. You get the idea.
     
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  14. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    And I appreciate it all. I love hard work, I need to do something physical. I've learned that about myself. I work in an office right now and it's like a foreign land whilst walking on eggshells. I posted here because I've never touched a slat of engineered hardwood or kicked carpet. I do know I enjoy electrical work for sure but the company I interviewed sounds really good and all their employees are happy. Maybe hurting but happy. It was funny because I like to maintain a level of professionalism, (I guess I kept that from selling homes) but the operations manager was shocked pleasantly that I brought in a resume. Lol
     
  15. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    Here is the best advice. Go try it! You will know really fast if it is something you are going to like. It really is a lifestyle, not a career. I have learned so much thanks to this industry, not only about floor covering, but so many other trades. Talking to people and being part of the process, building relationships that last a life time and feeling genuinely proud at the end of each day. I own a bloody corporation, can't say I ever saw that coming when I was 17 running a drum sander for days on end..... House is almost paid for, my wife stays at home with my two daughters and we own both of our vehicles. I know a lot of people who can't say the same. It's a good life, I got in early so I'm lucky. I have an exit strategy in place hopefully for when I hit 40 and that's about as much good as I can say about that :)
     
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  16. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    My wife was binge watching some of her shows on Netflix. She then started watching Better Call Saul, she explains its about a meth dealer, why she watching this crap? Anyway I sat down for a bit to get the gist after 40 hours over a period of days. The part where the brother in law sent an investigator to take pictures of the Industrial dry cleaning facility and didn’t find anything but the bil sent some pictures to an electrical chat room, the electricians said the panels are way overrated for the needs of the equipment. Just wanted to say he gave some praise to the forums where pros hang out, kinda funny how they worked that into the script.

    Couple other things I don’t recommend doing, football and gymnastics for lifelong pain.
     
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  17. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    That was actually from Breaking Bad! I loved that show and remembered that happening.

    Better call Saul is the prequel of sorts about Walter's lawyer that I haven't finished yet. *Thumbs up*
     
  18. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    You are correct, thought there was something about the title but couldn’t remember. Wondered why Saul wasn’t main character.
     
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  19. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    .... Then there is the bad part of floor covering. I just got out of bed. Woke up on the couch this morning because apparently after working 14 hours yesterday i was too tired to make it to bed. I didn't see either of my kids, they were in bed when i got home and still asleep when i left for work. Arthritis is forming in my right hand, you know, my knife holder as it were. I have one stair in my house, ONE, and i had to use my hands on my knees just to get down it, same as ever other day. My back has this persistent ache that sometimes doesn't hurt too bad.... Still love what i do, but at 5 am it is a lot easier to get me to grumble about it :)
     
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  20. DownInGeorgia

    DownInGeorgia Considering the Business

    I made my decision and sent the manager and email that said "I wanted to thank you for offering me the opportunity to come on board with XX but I think I'm going to continue my job search, reasons being that I am not 100% sure whether or not I'll enjoy flooring work or not, having NEVER done it and having no way to try it out for a few months, though the interest is definitely there. I would never want to inconvenience the company at all by coming on board with the chance of not having my whole heart in it when there could be applicants now that know your company is where they want to be.

    Thanks again and it was great meeting you all. Hopefully I can send some referrals y'all's way!"

    Thank y'all for giving me some perspective. Maybe I could make a decision if I did it for a few months but I don't want to possibly waste the company's time.
     
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