CFI - CRI What do they teach about seaming

Discussion in 'Industry News, Training & Organizations' started by inyourface, May 8, 2006.

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  1. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain TFP Owner/Founder Administrator

    :ot: This particular issue is not about the seaming techniques you started this topic about. You can begin a new topic about different issues at any time. But please do keep in mind that what you are bringing up is a matter for CFI. Even though this forum has several CFI members they are not able to make or change policy here or offer you solutions to the dilemma you have with that organization. It is something you will have to bring up with the CFI home office. We can't do anything about it here.

    Also please try not to be accusatory and challenging in your aggressive fashion when the people you are directing your frustration with are not even here. I would like it if they would be but they are not as yet. And we certainly do not want to scare them away by being intimidating.

    Thank you for trying to understand.
  2. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain TFP Owner/Founder Administrator

    No it was just a suggestion. Everyone has their own style. You're fine.
  3. inyourface

    inyourface Guest

    I just proved with words this industry cannot set guidelines for the stretch because of the inconsistancy caused by fillers, UNLESS, you can prove in any other form how it can be done.

    Everything I talk about I can prove, or I wouldn't leave myself open to get hammered by others.

    All these things could be tested for at "surfaces", but all installers also know it won't happen until all installers keep talking about it and demanding the proof daily.

    If they don't, then the industry can make up any rules it wants and all installers are held liable. Take seam sealing and just go back to any board you want and look at the responses. They range from the guy not using sealers because it can create black lines, it can cause pull-downs and if we don't seal, we can be had that way.

    That's a bunch of nonsense and everyone knows it.

    If you'd like more proof, I can always question the installers here and prove even more.

    Now I rarely install anymore, but I do all repairs and restretches now, but I can still prove all I say.

    Take a velvet carpet that's very soft and either try to glue it directly to the floor or, try to put a sealer on it and put it together. That nap is so soft and it falls down into the seam all the way down, so if every step isn't done exactly, the installers will have problems.
  4. Daniel Wachtel

    Daniel Wachtel Charter Member

    You asked about seam sealing, I spoke on seam sealing.

    Back to the carpet and rug institute. Exactly what won't they stand behind?

    As for CFI you asked what they teach about seam sealing, the only time they teach seam sealing is at a CFI training event, an entry level training. This has little to do with upper level certifications. You seem to have been given alot of misinformation somewhere down the line about CFI. Please feel free to stop in at a chapter meeting in your area. It should clarify some of your questions about it.

    So anyway, how ya been? We havent "spoken" in some time.
  5. Jim McClain

    Jim McClain TFP Owner/Founder Administrator


    I split off your last post and Daniel's reply because it was way off topic to this one. You can find it here

    Since it looks like this seaming issue has talked its way out I will close the thread now. If you have more comments about seaming and sealing let me know. I can open the thread again too if its necessary. Thanks.
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