carpet seaming tips

Discussion in 'Floorcovering Installation & Maintenance Tips' started by Ben1191, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Roland Thompson

    Roland Thompson Charter Member Senior Member

    All good tips these guys are giving you. What I would do in your case. Since it is this one style giving you the most issue, I would take some home and work with it. Learning everything I could about how it worked. Yes carpet can have cross over rows. Normally at the point where the row makes the turn back you can find a row. As far to the part doing it in place or out in the room and moving it back, it is what you feel most comfortable with. No given rule.
     
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  2. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    Carpet seaming has to be my least liked thing in the industry. If i didn't know any better i would swear the mills just make the most complicated patterns visually that they can strung out on LSD one night then sit back and laugh their asses off while we try and mangle it back together.

    You know the ones, stand up and sight it clear as day, get down on your knees swearing to all that is holy that this time, THIS TIME, ill find that row for sure just to get down there and realize, NOPE its lost again...
     
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  3. Tom Potter

    Tom Potter I Support TFP

    Did one of those yesterday. Only problem was it was tough to see on my knees. Then I stand up & it was still hard to see.

    I always thought it would be cool of the mills to somehow mark the repeat on the back. Would definitely save some guys sanity.
     
  4. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    At one point one of the mills had the match points marked on the selvedge. I think it was Mohawk. Made for a easy match up.

    :old:

    Daris
     
  5. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In I Support TFP Senior Member

    That is so true Mark ! :blink: and that's going to be us in a few days :eek:

    Thanks for the laugh, from that terminology " Swearing to all that is Holy " :D How do you come up w/ this stuff ;)
     
  6. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    Well man, i am not gonna come out and admit anything incriminating here on the old interwebs, nor am i gonna give away all of my secrets to a life of menial comedic accolades however what i can say is that since October 17th 2018 it has been a lot easier, I think Chris 45 posted a picture of his uh, how do you say, Coffee Mug? the other week that might clear that up for ya :p
     
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  7. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    Sing it with me

     
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  8. Ben1191

    Ben1191 Pro Member

    bought some roberts seam sealer today (white stuff in a bottle) says on the back of the bottle to apply it to the edges and then heat seam before it drys? i thought the idea of them was to let it dry then seam it? anybody got some instructions on how to use it?
     
  9. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    You either put it on and seam it wet or let it dry completely then seam it. The thinking of seaming it wet is that the 2 sides will bond and dry together as 1. The downside to seaming it wet is you get a build up of crap on your iron that tends to grab the sealer that’s on the carpet and can pull a loop or 5 if you’re doing a berber.
     
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  10. Majwoody

    Majwoody Pro Member

    I let the latex dry but prefer to use hot melt instead. I have gone back to turning my rooms to lay the seam flat. When I seam in place, I double over the tape at the strip so I can get a good melt. I make relief cuts about 4 inches from the seam on both pieces will trim to tuck length for doorways. Flat roller always and either xk50 or xk30 tape. I lay maybe 700 yards of stretch-in per year. Just enough to keep the damn tools...
     
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  11. Ben1191

    Ben1191 Pro Member

    Seaming in place,ive been thinking and come to the conclusion that if you dont stretch the carpet before you seam, it will eventually ripple as the tape isnt going to stretch once its dried? Maybe thats a stupid conclusion though :D
     
  12. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    Yeah No!,you’re correct, CFI Jim Walker always said to prestretch the seam. Highly Logical. It’s just extra steps.
     
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  13. Ben1191

    Ben1191 Pro Member

    well, tomorrow i have around 300ft of joins to do in a 60oz saxony. Lets see how that goes ...550sqyards of carpet
     
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  14. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Rarely have I stretched a seam before making it. Lining up patterns sometimes.
     
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  15. Chris 45

    Chris 45 Director of P.R. on some deserted island. I Support TFP

    I never prestretched my seams unless it was some ridiculously long seam. I ran into an installer from Montana maybe 20 years ago and seaming was the last thing he did. He would stretch and stay nail the seam then stretch, trim and tuck everything else then go back and burn all his seams at the end. Pull the stay nails and he was gone. His work was clean.
     
  16. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    I did maybe 10 times. Koolglide wasn’t around back then, faster cooling seams would’ve helped speed the process, maybe even prevent some delamination/distortion with seamer down now with our humidity levels.
     
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  17. JayP

    JayP Pro Member

    All this talk about pre-stretching seams... I’ve never done it, except once where furniture and exercise equipment was involved. The way I was taught was to stretch off my seams. I would be worried about bowing my seam edge...
     
  18. kylenelson

    kylenelson You'll find me on the floor I Support TFP Senior Member

    I don’t, but have, prestretched. I’m pretty sure I had a patterned carpet that needed to be stretched to align pattern before seaming. I don’t think it’s an ideal way to make a seam, and it’s certainly not efficient.
     
  19. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In I Support TFP Senior Member

    I was never taught to pre-stretch, but like Ben...... ' Carpet sense ' ;) kicked in, I'm mean power stretched in :D later to be validated by Jimmy Walker and THE CFI :)

    When working alone, I pre-stretch all seams, even door seams :eek:
    When I split a job w/ other Mechanics ( who do not ) I go
    from one method to the another, depending on my Anal retentive personality that day :rolleyes: I've tried arguing with myself to never compromise but it's easier to just give in, because !! Cats Just Piss on it :p

    Mike
     
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  20. Mark Brown

    Mark Brown On The Surface Flooring I Support TFP

    i always put a pre-stretch on my seams, just enough to get it tight(ish).... the best part is i never knew why, i just knew i was supposed to
     
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