Can feel tack strip as well as nails on stairs. What to do?

Discussion in 'Carpet Q&A' started by amely, Oct 2, 2014.

  1. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    That's because the last carpet had a thicker backing! The backing is firm and prevents things from showing through the carpet. The new flimsy backings do not do this as well. Take the new carpet and better pad. Try to inspect the steps prior to carpet installation so you can check the feel of the finished step before the stairs are covered. Try to take pics and post them for us.
     
  2. Bud Cline

    Bud Cline Tile Expert Charter Member Senior Member Published

    Why doesn't someone suggest a carpet weight? Would something like a 26 ounce carpet be suitable? Beats me - throwing it out there.
     
  3. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    I'very seen 26 Oz carpets with paper thin backing. You need something with a burly denier so the backing is beefy.
     
  4. amely

    amely Member

    How do I find out how burly the denier is? This actually sounds like the weirdest sentence ever. Do I say, please make sure the denier is x? Or some such?
     
  5. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Denier is the thickness or heaviness of the yarn.
    Nate should have filled you in on the terminology.

    :old:

    Daris
     
  6. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    Woops
    Faris is correct...I should have explained. The thicker the yarn, the greater the distance between the primary and secondary backing. That's why beers tend to have thicker backings. Because they'really made with fatter yarn.
     
  7. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Nate how long have I known you? Its Daris with a "D"!! GEEish!!

    :old:

    Daris
     
  8. Mike Antonetti

    Mike Antonetti I Support TFP Senior Member

    He wasn't watching hence beers for Berbers.
     
  9. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Here is his business name. "The Enchanted FLOORist"
    I think its to many Shrooms. :p

    :old:

    Daris
     
  10. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    Fat fingers and done typing don't mix...I spell gud
     
  11. amely

    amely Member

    So what should I ask for? Is there a number or length or width I should ask for?
     
  12. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    Sorry it's not usually listed on samples and most sales people know next to nothing about carpet construction. You could roll the yarn between your fingers and feel the thickness (or lack thereof ).
    You could fold the sample and check the beefiness (or lack thereof ) unfortunately there are so many stickers and warrantees on the back it won't be too helpful.
     
  13. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Now I'm going to throw a monkey wrench into Nates post.
    There are yarns that are very small and twisted that is what we call pencil point plush. They are a very fine deniered yarn but really packed in the carpet. Now I know I got you totally confused but it needed to be said.
    but I would find something you like and go with it. Gets confusing don't it.

    :old:

    Daris
     
  14. Mike Sliwinski

    Mike Sliwinski The Doctor Is In Senior Member

    O-Boy ! we be working this like a muscle :blink: :eek: :D

    Have the retailer do a mock up, in front of you, for your approval, at there shop.

    It's as easy as placing one piece of tackless, the proposed padding (3/8''8.0lb ) the sample piece of each up-graded carpet onto the floor, and finally, Amely's foot !:yesss: for her discernment :cool:

    However, I still recommend carefully removing the existing carpet, remove the tackless, install new padding and then re-install STAPLE METHOD !!

    Even though the tackless was never felt from the previous carpet,
    by removing the tackless, it becomes the solution for the existing carpet and the insurance policy for the possible new ! Virtually no visible difference will be seen in the installation, but surely a guaranteed difference in feel.

    Good Luck and go make something happen today !! :D
    Mike
     
  15. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    CFI doesn't use a staple gun.
     
  16. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    CFI recommends a staple gun for turn and tacking carpets.
     
  17. kwfloors

    kwfloors Fuzz on the brain Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    I never heard that, thought it was z bar. They must be a bit different now. They don't endorse the staple on method for stairs though.
     
  18. Nate Hall

    Nate Hall Types With Elbows Senior Member Published

    No and I would have to try several methods before resorting to that.

    Z bar is recommended for certain carpets, turn and tack the rest.
     
  19. Daris Mulkin

    Daris Mulkin The One and Only Charter Member I Support TFP Senior Member

    Remember Dobby Tappet always said "think outside the box". There are times when you have to do things that don't meet the rules and guidelines. Also customers aren't also always right, but it is our job to try and make them happy.


    :old:

    Daris
     
  20. amely

    amely Member

    Okay, so I could get a new carpet which is 100% polyester, 43 oz., loop cut loop carpet. It comes with a 6 pound 7/16th padding, but I could upgrade to an 8 pound 1/2. Would that solve the issue?

    Or do you really think the best bet is to take the tack strips off the stairs and glue?
     
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