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josh August 23, 2013 10:29 AM

swiftlock pro
Heya all, just was wondering your opinion on swift lock pro flooring... I have to tear out about 1000square feet of tile because they put it right on the plywood subfloor with no backer board

Mike Antonetti August 23, 2013 05:52 PM

What are you talking about? Laminate on backer board?

Jim McClain August 23, 2013 06:09 PM

I think the new flooring he called Swift Lock Pro is actually SwiftLock Plus laminate, made by Shaw and sold exclusively at Lowe's.

The existing floor is ceramic tile installed on plywood, WITHOUT the benefit of cement backerboard. He is tearing that out before the laminate floor goes down.

'Least I think that's what he means.


Mike Antonetti August 23, 2013 06:17 PM

Got it, I read it wrong, haven't installed that particular one but I did install their cheapest humanly possible .68 cents sq. ft.
That's gotta be a Cadillac compared to my Kia. I thought swift lock was Armstrong.

josh August 24, 2013 09:40 AM

Sorry for the confusion, my pc is still acting up so I had written it from my phone. The tile that is currently in my home was put in with no backer board, it was installed on the plywood subfloor. I am going to tear out the tile and am looking at replacing it with the Swift Lock Plus laminate. I also was wondering if there are any reasons that laminate with attached underlayment. Thanks all

josh August 29, 2013 05:14 PM

First timer questions
Hey all, I have pretty much come down to two choices in the laminate I will be putting in. It has come down to either the Swiftlock Plus in Westmont Oak 8mm thick with attached pad from Lowes or Home Decorators Collection Distressed Brown Hickory from Home Depot 12mm thick without a attached pad. One of my big concerns is if I will be able to get the same product from lowes a couple years from now as they have pulled it off of their website. I actually like the one from home depot better but cannot really find any reviews on the quality of it, Kaindl Flooring GmbH is who makes it for home depot.

Does having the pad attached make enough of a difference to warrant seriously swaying my opinion while choosing a laminate?
How much difference is their between the 8mm and 12mm when it comes to the finished product?
Do I need to pick up any special blades for my chop saw or tablesaw?

I am looking forward to the install job as there is nothing more satisfying than to be able to say "Hey, I did that" at the end of the day.

My house is a raised foundation with both 2x8 diagonal subfloor with sheeted plywood on top. Any input is appreciated, Thanks!!!

icanlayit2 August 30, 2013 07:45 PM

I am not a fan of ANY product sold at HD or Lowes or any other big box store.I say go to a floor dealer and get a good quality floor.Sorry,just my opinion from years of installing.

curtisballardsr August 30, 2013 08:19 PM

Any laminate you choose could be unavailable in a few years, as manufacturers often change their products. As for attached backings, they are fine but sometimes require 6mil visqueen over the subfloor. As for a material choice, I strongly recommend a product with the uniclic locking system. It's by far the best in the industry, and the easiest to install properly.

Mike Antonetti August 31, 2013 03:45 AM

No special blades, carbide with higher tooth count.
Attached pad or separate either is ok
Products change continuously, unavailable in 2 months let alone next year, locking mechanisms change design, surface texture, sheen, widths, lengths, pad,
Over wood pergo use to say don't tape the seams for the vapor barrier, they manufactured both attached and separate.
I think thicker has more strength and integrity depending how flat your floor is, whether thin will disconnect and gap from hollow spots underneath.

curtisballardsr August 31, 2013 05:44 AM

I should have mentioned that a carbide blade is required, but I never use more than a 40 tooth blade since it will be useless for anything other than laminate after 1 cut. As for locking systems, uniclic's is unchanged since the 90s, and licensed to many manufacturers. Thickness can make a difference, but the core is more important to stability. Scottsdale brand is a good example of this, 12.3 mm but very unstable and shrinks on almost every installation. Low spots can be filled with fine silica sand, an old school solution that still works today.

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